Jewish Music Blog

March 3, 2006

Lev Tahor 4 Not So Original

Filed under: Uncategorized — jewishmusic @ 9:09 am

I came across a song by Michael Smith called I Will be Here for You. The hooks on that song reminded of Lev Tahor 4, and I was surprised to here an exact copy of a bridge from that song used in Lev Tahor’s U’venei Yerushalayim. The funny thing is that when I first heard U’venei, I thought that the bridge to it were not typcially Jewish. It turns out I was more right than I thought. Although I have another post on this in general, I thought I should mention something about this regarding Lev Tahor because of the pervasiveness of this hook in the song. Sure, Lev Tahor already ripped a Scorpion song (Lev Tahor 2 intro to Asher Boro) and the theme to Shrek (LT 4 intro to Avinu), but this is not merely an intro, but a bridge in a song, which is more integral to the song. How much more of the album is directly copied from non-Jewish music? My main gripe is that people who buy this album don’t realize what they’re listening to. My second gripe is that Lev Tahor didn’t give credit to the original artist. Blog in Dm recently posted about this issue in regards to a “hashgacha” on music. (Here and here). I wouldn’t go that far, but it would be nice to know the source of the music I’m listening to.

Update 3/07: Based on a comment, I listened to the Pink Floyd song High Hopes, and not only is the intro to this song directly copied into Mah Yididus (Gut Shabbos), the bridge to Mah Yedidus is taken directly from a hook in High Hopes. The tone used for the guitar solo as well as string lines at the end of the song are all based on, if not ripped entirely, from High Hopes. Is Jewish music totally devoid of originality that it has to imitate?

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14 Comments »

  1. big deal.. just because of one move you can’t call the whole LT4 not so original

    Comment by Anonymous — March 5, 2006 @ 4:14 pm

  2. “big deal.. just because of one move you can’t call the whole LT4 not so original”…
    What about the Shrek ripoff, or Pink Floyd’s “High Hopes” now known as Ma Yedidus? and there’s plenty more. These aren’t just hooks…it’s the actual arrangements, instrumentation and even vocal harmony arrangements. Crediting it to David Gilmour won’t work in Boro Park… Ari Fuchs has a better ring to it.

    Comment by Anonymous — March 6, 2006 @ 1:16 pm

  3. I have bought two Lev Tahor albums, and enjoyed them both. However, my wife and (to a lesser extent) I can identify which group they ripped off the tune and arrangment. Some are from Chicago, Asia, the cars, Simon and Garfinkel(Im Eshkachech), it isn’t too hard.

    Comment by dilbert — March 6, 2006 @ 2:16 pm

  4. dilbert,

    I have no problem with original music with non-Jewish influences, I only object to blatant copying without some notice or credit. Lev Tahor has a huge list of thank-yous, you’d think that they could stick a couple of extra names in there.

    Comment by keyboardguy — March 6, 2006 @ 2:30 pm

  5. Aryeh:You mean like Dedi did with the abba song?

    Comment by Jewish Blogmeister — March 6, 2006 @ 3:19 pm

  6. blogmeister,

    I don’t get the reference. Which Abba song is that?

    Comment by keyboardguy — March 6, 2006 @ 5:57 pm

  7. I forgot the name of the song but he did a song where he basically took it from abba and in the credits it says it was from songs “shel abba” play on words etc.

    Comment by Jewish Blogmeister — March 7, 2006 @ 9:34 am

  8. Firstly, there was a discussion recently on the jewish music yahoogroup where they LT4’s use of the shrek theme and the “joy of pepsi” song when a member of the group chimed in and openly admitted to their use of other songs in throughout the album tracks and some were more obvious than others.

    As for the Abba song, it was a dedi album produced by ahron teitelbaum (the one where they used a song from flashdance, and and another song (i forget which) and for the abba song the credited it as “nigun mbeit abba”

    Comment by The Town Crier — March 8, 2006 @ 2:58 pm

  9. Speek of ripoff peeves – i cant stand everytime i hear what i think is is going to be the shindler’s list movie soundtrack turn out to be “mama rochel”

    Comment by The Town Crier — March 8, 2006 @ 2:59 pm

  10. I do vaguely remember the Abba credit that Dedi gave, and that is definitely better than giving no credit at all.

    town crier,
    I don’t need Lev Tahor admitting that they copied – that’s obvious; maybe on their next album they’ll put some extra thank-yous in or list some additional names in the composed or arranged by list.

    Comment by keyboardguy — March 8, 2006 @ 3:48 pm

  11. or, maybe, someone will come up with some JEWISH music without ripping off the sound of other bands.

    Comment by dilbert — March 9, 2006 @ 5:06 pm

  12. Whoever said that LT got Im Eshkachech form Simon & Garfunkel… What the heck are you talking about??????? That song was written by R’ Twersky and has been sung for years

    Comment by Anonymous — May 8, 2006 @ 4:11 pm

  13. The song is original, but it’s done in the style of Simon and Garfunkel.

    Comment by keyboardguy — May 8, 2006 @ 5:51 pm

  14. Aside from all these comments, the first track “Im Lavan Garti” is also a huge rip-off. I bought the CD in January and was listening to it in my car on the way to the mall. While in the mall I heard the exact same sounding song, and upon closer examination (and research online) it turns out it was a Lionel Richie song “Cinderella,” even the “ai yay yay yay” part was almost an exact rip from the original. Thoroughly disappointing…

    Comment by Harry — June 22, 2006 @ 12:13 am


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